We have a hobby size kennel under the guidelines of the state of Indiana.
Most of our pack have been with us for many years, and are our tried and true companions. Our pack is made up of Cockapoos, Poodles and Cockers. All of our Cockers are American Cocker spaniels. Our poodles that we have, and that are in the background of our dogs, are anywhere from teacup size (2 - 4 lbs.) on up to mini size (12 - 17 lbs.) So our cockapoo puppies can be anywhere from 5 to 25 lbs. full grown depending on which dogs were bred, and what is in their pedigree (I study the pedigree before making my breeding choices). Most of our breeding lines have come from show kennels, and have been with us for many years.
We do not stress too much about the generational value of f1, f2, f1b or ect. What matters most is quality breeding dogs, and making the best breeding decision based on every variable, not just the generation of the cockapoo.
Generally f1b, when it is a mix of cockapoo and poodle, is non shed for sure. But be careful, some breeders will have f1b puppies that are a mix of cocker and cockapoo which most likely will shed. Both are called f1b.
F1 is a mix of cocker and poodle, and f2, f3, f4, ect are from a breeding of cockapoo to cockapoo. F2 cockapoos have one f1 parent, the other parent can be f1, f2, ect. That is how the generational breeding is supposed to be figured. In general any mix of cocker to poodle is a cockapoo.
When we breed our dogs, our first thought is to the quality of the resulting cockapoo puppies! AKC background is helpful, and champion pedigrees is a plus, but breeder integrity is a must!
Our dogs have genetic testing done to ensure that they do not have defects to pass on to their puppies. If we find that one of our dogs has such a defect, we take them out of our breeding program. We do not inbreed our dogs, nor do we over breed them. All of our puppies, from the tiny f1b, to a chunky f2, they are healthy and bred in a responsible manner.
I hear so many people ask which generational breeding of the cockapoo makes the healthiest cockapoo?
All of them have hybrid vigor up until aproximately the 6th generation. If bred correctly, and not inbred, all cockapoos have the increased health benefits over the parent breeds.
We have been informed that there are cockapoo breeders who are claiming that the f1 cross results in puppies that are more healthy than the f2 or f1b. However, science does not back this up! I think that they must be refering to inbred cockapoos. Inbreeding is not a responsible practice because inbreeding can cause a genetic health defect to streangthen.
Furthermore, if bred incorrectly, F1 cockapoos can be unhealthy even if the AKC registered parents are healthy. That is because some purebred cockers and poodles carry hidden/recessive health problems. These health concerns can be 'unlocked' through an outcross/f1 breeding. This is why we get to know our lines and check the genetic testing in the background.
F2 cockapoos can also be negatively affected if the F1 cockapoos that they are bred from have genetic health defects.
We have found that the f1b is generally the healthiest mix, and has the most desirable traits. Of course this is only if the cocker line, and both of the poodle lines are healthy, and from excellent, well proven lines! This is also a scientific fact that is observed in crosses of other types of animals and even plants. The benefits of the f1b cockapoo are as follows:
Of course, if you are wanting a heavier build dog that does not stick so closely to you, and may shed a bit, then the well bred f1 or f2 may have excellent offerings for you. The f2 cross has more of a variability in size and coat type if you are wanting specific combos such as curly coat in a larger size, or straight coat in a smaller size, or visa versa! You can see the aspects of the f2 cockapoo pup developing by the time they are about 5 wks. of age.